The problem is simply that there is no person. "No person - no problem"

Let's turn to several well-established expressions, the authorship of which is attributed to I. Stalin. We will not discuss the controversial figure of Stalin here, this is the topic of another blog and another post, we will focus only on quotes:

“If there is a person, there is a problem. No person - no problem” “The death of a person is a tragedy, the death of millions is statistics” “There are no prisoners of war in the Red Army, there are only traitors and traitors to the Motherland” “It doesn’t matter how they vote, it’s important how they count”

So what was it really like?

“If there is a person, there is a problem. No person - no problem"

It is alleged that I. Stalin stated that: “If there is a person, there is a problem. No person, no problem.” This myth is used to point out Stalin's cruelty and neglect human life.

In fact, Stalin never said anything like this. This statement was invented by the writer A. Rybakov and attributed it to Stalin in his book “Children of the Arbat”:

“In one of my articles, which he especially liked, I reproduced famous aphorism Stalin: “If there is a person, there is a problem. No person - no problem! Anatoly Naumovich glared: where did Stalin say this? In which of your works? Or in a note? Or in what speech?

I thought about it. He answered like this: knowing a little about Stalin’s psychology, I assume and am even sure that he never publicly spoke these exact words. And I didn’t write. He was a great actor in politics and would not allow himself to reveal his essence. He could allow himself such frankness only in a very narrow circle of his “comrades-in-arms,” or rather, lackeys. Where did I read this? Yes, it's kind of vague. Hangs in the air. A lot of where. In memoirs... In journalism. This phrase has become a kind of cliche to denote that era.

So you don't remember exactly where?

Absolutely not.

“So that’s it,” cried Anatoly Naumovich with youthful liveliness, “I came up with it myself!” For the first time in “Children of the Arbat,” Stalin utters this phrase. I composed it and put it in Stalin’s mouth! I wrote this novel 20 years before its publication in 1987. And from there she went for a walk, and no one remembers where she came from. I, I am the author of this aphorism. And now - no one remembers or knows...

IN last words there was unconcealed bitterness" ()

“The death of a person is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic”

It is alleged that Stalin uttered the phrase: “The death of a person is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.” In fact, Stalin did not say such words. This phrase is a slightly paraphrased quote from Remarque’s novel “The Black Obelisk”: “But, apparently, this always happens: the death of one person is death, and the death of two million is just statistics.”

“There are no prisoners of war in the Red Army, there are only traitors and traitors to the Motherland”

"Eat famous phrase, attributed to Stalin: “There are no prisoners of war in the Red Army, there are only traitors and traitors to the Motherland.” And Khavkin in his article “German prisoners of war in the USSR and Soviet prisoners of war in Germany. Formulation of the problem. Sources and Literature" quotes this phrase, referring to the Certificate of the Commission for the Rehabilitation of Victims political repression.4)

What’s interesting is that there really is such a phrase there, that’s the name of one part of this certificate. No reference is given to where this phrase came from, where, when and to whom Stalin said this. The most interesting thing is that there are no links in the help at all. Only in the introduction are the names of the archives in which they worked mentioned.”

There is a version that this phrase was allegedly uttered by Stalin in a conversation with the representative of the International Red Cross, Count Bernadotte, and is quoted in his memoirs. The phrase in retellings is formulated as follows: “... there are no Russian prisoners of war - the Russian soldier fights to the death. If he chooses captivity, then he is automatically excluded from the Russian community,” which somewhat changes its meaning, because "Russian community" is moral category, and not legal, i.e. " We will despise the prisoners, but you will return the prisoners to us and observe the conventions regarding prisoners of war.”

A well-known phrase “It doesn’t matter how they vote, but what matters is how they count” is Napoleon III. He said it after the next plebiscite in France. Comrade Stalin simply paraphrased them: “In bourgeois countries, it is important not how they vote, but how they count.”

First appeared in the memoirs of defector B. Bazhanov (to France, 1.1.1928) Full quote“You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “what I think about this: I think that it doesn’t matter at all who will vote in the party and how; but what is extremely important is who will count the votes and how.” However, it is extremely doubtful that Stalin would say this clearly compromising phrase in public.

Let's expose! Stalin didn’t say this… July 23rd, 2013

Let's turn to several well-established expressions, the authorship of which is attributed to I. Stalin. We will not discuss the controversial figure of Stalin here, this is the topic of another blog and another post, we will focus only on quotes:

“The death of a person is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic”

So what was it really like?

“If there is a person, there is a problem. No person - no problem"

It is alleged that I. Stalin stated that: “If there is a person, there is a problem. No person, no problem.” This myth is used to point out Stalin's cruelty and disregard for human life.

In fact, Stalin never said anything like this. This statement was invented by the writer A. Rybakov and attributed it to Stalin in his book “Children of the Arbat”:

“In one of my articles, which he especially liked, I reproduced Stalin’s famous aphorism: “There is a man, there is a problem. No person - no problem! Anatoly Naumovich glared: where did Stalin say this? In which of your works? Or in a note? Or in what speech?

I thought about it. He answered like this: knowing a little about Stalin’s psychology, I assume and am even sure that he never publicly spoke these exact words. And I didn’t write. He was a great actor in politics and would not allow himself to reveal his essence. He could allow himself such frankness only in a very narrow circle of his “comrades-in-arms,” or rather, lackeys. Where did I read this? Yes, it's kind of vague. Hangs in the air. A lot of where. In memoirs... In journalism. This phrase has become a kind of cliche to denote that era.

- So you don’t remember exactly where?

- Absolutely not.

“So that’s it,” cried Anatoly Naumovich with youthful liveliness, “I came up with it myself!” For the first time in “Children of the Arbat,” Stalin utters this phrase. I composed it and put it in Stalin’s mouth! I wrote this novel 20 years before its publication in 1987. And from there she went for a walk, and no one remembers where she came from. I, I am the author of this aphorism. And now - no one remembers or knows...

There was undisguised bitterness in the last words.” ()

“The death of a person is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.”

It is alleged that Stalin uttered the phrase: “The death of a person is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.” In fact, Stalin did not say such words. This phrase is a slightly paraphrased quote from Remarque’s novel “The Black Obelisk”: “But, apparently, this always happens: the death of one person is death, and the death of two million is just statistics»

“There are no prisoners of war in the Red Army, there are only traitors and traitors to the Motherland”

“There is a famous phrase attributed to Stalin: “There are no prisoners of war in the Red Army, there are only traitors and traitors to the Motherland.” And Khavkin cites this phrase in his article, referring to the Certificate of the Commission for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression.

What’s interesting is that there really is such a phrase there, that’s the name of one part of this certificate. No reference is given to where this phrase came from, where, when and to whom Stalin said this. The most interesting thing is that there are no links in the help at all. Only in the introduction are the names of the archives in which they worked mentioned.”

There is a version that this phrase was allegedly uttered by Stalin in a conversation with the representative of the International Red Cross, Count Bernadotte, and is quoted in his memoirs. The phrase in retellings is formulated as follows: “... there are no Russian prisoners of war - the Russian soldier fights to the death. If he chooses captivity, then he is automatically excluded from the Russian community,” which somewhat changes its meaning, because “Russian community” is a moral category, not a legal one, i.e. “We will despise the prisoners, but you will return the prisoners to us and observe the conventions on prisoners of war.”

By everyone famous phrase“It doesn’t matter how they vote, but what matters is how they count” is Napoleon III. He said it after the next plebiscite in France. Comrade Stalin simply paraphrased them: “ In bourgeois countries, it is important not how they vote, but how they count».

It first appeared in the memoirs of defector B. Bazhanov (to France, January 1, 1928) http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/BAZHANOW/stalin.txt Full quote “You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “what I think about this: I believe that it is completely unimportant who and how will vote in the party; but what is extremely important is who will count the votes and how.” However, it is extremely doubtful that Stalin would say this clearly compromising phrase in public.

What can you remember from the recent revelations on our blog? Well, for example, or . The rest of our revelations are no longer related to Stalin The original article is on the website InfoGlaz.rf Link to the article from which this copy was made -

We run from our problems without even thinking– or maybe fictional fears don’t exist at all? But still, sometimes you have to run away as fast as you can - oh, how tired I am of this miserable existence, and work, a dog and a cat, small rodents, bandits and the police, and wow - a sweaty boss in the office. Often you just want to get rid of the burden of things that have piled up and rush to the monastery, put on a cassock and hide behind the altar. Are you familiar with these tricky sensations? Don’t rush to tempt fate—you can’t run away from yourself. In the end, death solves all problems - no person, no problem. Do you need it? It's better to continue living in full force, because we came to this world only once.

Who said – no person, no problem?

Does it matter who said this phrase? The main thing is why, and for what reason? One eccentric said something, and the “dashing” rush began. Now everyone is jumping around and being clever and repeating like parrots. But on the other hand, maybe the one who said “no man, no problem” was the wisest philosopher of all? Then it's clear why catchphrase has such an effect on the psychology of those around him, and they cannot do without him. Or maybe mass hypnosis on TV from Kashpirovsky or Chumak? Remember these? Or more advanced civilizations from parallel worlds delivered and ordered to use this phrase. Well, I do not. I can’t believe the fantastic origin of words on earth. Everything, one way or another, was contributed by people, and which ones are smart or stupid, let’s figure it out further.

And yet vague doubts gnaw

So whose words are there - no person, no problem? Let's start reasoning together in order and gradually, and when the secret is revealed and the meaning is exhausted, it will no longer be interesting. Therefore, with quiet steps, savoring, we move towards the goal. So, the ideologist who said - no person, no problem, probably did not wear a Phantomás mask and did not hide from the police. He uttered these lines without even thinking about the outcome this would pose for the world community. He blurted it out, and that’s all, perhaps during a 5-minute smoke break somewhere in a shabby toilet room. And everyone believed it immediately. If there is no man, the problems will begin to become even more curious. Who will cook and serve you food? And who will wash and iron for you? Or he will shout and educate. Is loneliness really better? Have you ever thought? That's it. Think about it, friends.

Quiz, or identifying heroes

Let's take a little quiz and try to guess who said these words: “No man, no problem.” Let's create an approximate list of identified characters:

1. Leopold the cat
2. White mouse in the Greek hall
3. Internet troll Podtishkin
4. Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin
5. Grandfather Kuzma
6. Police RoboCop
7. Rybakov Anatoly Naumovich
8. Universal Soldier
9. Fox Alice
10. Henchman Basilio
11. Terminator
12. Rambo

According to the numbering structure, there were twelve of them. All of them famous personalities and deserve special attention. In short, use this in verbal form could any of these characters. But there is no point in guessing which of these characters is involved in such a problematic interpretation. We will go the other way and turn to reliable sources- books and the Internet in order to be sure of your guesses and weed out those who are not involved.

Catching persons

Well, that's another matter. After rummaging through the sea of ​​information and taking notes on what you need, you can set a snare and catch the philosopher. It turns out that in the judgment: “there is a person - there is a problem, there is no person - there are no problems”, another small detail has appeared. Now the individual is already present, and a difficulty has fallen out of nowhere, after which, apparently, nothing good fortune promises nothing but death. Since the continuation reveals a terrible interpretation, like: a citizen died, and there were no more troubles, but more specifically, that’s where he belongs. What is this? It's just some kind of mockery. As long as nothing else is added further. We didn’t sign up for a “hang,” that is, an unsolved investigation. Therefore, we search, dig the soil and sniff out. Although no one signed us up to be private detectives, this is an idea of ​​personal principle.

Undeniable facts on the face

Try to guess by facial expressions whether a person is lying or not? Looking at the pictures, you won’t catch anything like this. Because these are drawings and nothing more. But it is necessary to read and develop. Otherwise, not a single investigator will ever find the prankster, and the lawyer will not prove his innocence. Having delved into the encyclopedias and sat with them for at least half a day, we finally found those to whom the saying belongs: “if there is a person, there is a problem, if there is no person, there are no problems.” And again there were two of them. A paradox, and that’s all. But the facts are stubborn thing, and they are irrefutable. And then it’s time to reveal the ins and outs and pull the awl out of the bag.

Revealing the ins and outs

Everything turned out to be much simpler thanks, again, to willpower, hours spent reading literature and surfing world wide web. And the gist is this:

1. Firstly, one of these storytellers was the leader Soviet state Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich in Anatoly Rybakov’s novel “Children of Arbat”. He allegedly took and, as if by chance, concocted a witty formulation, thereby frightening those close to him during the execution of military authorities in the village of Tsaritsyno. They, naturally, changed their minds and began to retell scary phrase everyone in order to strengthen the influence of the Commander-in-Chief and themselves on the lower environment. And from there it spread among the people.

2. Secondly, directly Rybakov A.N., who claims that it was he who turned out to be the parent who suddenly remembered that he himself composed such a phrase when he wrote those very “Children of the Arbat”. And where did he appropriate such an intricate phraseology to Stalin personally? That's the whole legend.

Whether or not to believe these facts is a personal matter. But the main action was the need to deal with what had been done and to get to the bottom of at least some truth.

About the miracle that happened, or the end of the investigation

So we found out who said - no person, no problem. But how true this story is, you won’t find more evidence than what we already have. Here we can only affirm from the words of Anatoly Naumovich Rybakov, where he admits to an accomplished statement. Such people will not lie. Soviet prose writer who contributed to Russian culture and who wrote these significant works, How:

• Novel - “Drivers” (1950);
• Novel - “Ekaterina Voronina” (1955);
• Novel - “Children of Arbat” (1960);
• Novel – “Summer in Sosnyaki” (1964);
• The story - “The Adventures and Vacations of Krosh” (1960-66);
• Story – “ Unknown Soldier"(1970);
• The story is “The Bronze Bird” (1975);
• Story – “Dirk” (1975);
• Story – “Shot” (1975);
• Novel – “Heavy Sand” (1978).

As well as many essays and autobiographical memoirs, memories are stored in the unique collection of the writer. He sculpted and published, pronounced and forged. So let's take it positive examples and learn from such individuals to always remain true to your word!

IN bloodthirsty phrases attributed to the leaders of the USSR.

"Catchphrases" Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, which he did not pronounce. And the creative writers of Perestroika spoke.

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"We don't have prisoners of war. We have traitors."

A phrase attributed to Stalin - "There are no prisoners of war in the Red Army, there are only traitors and traitors to the Motherland".

a) I. Khavkin in his article "German prisoners of war in the USSR and Soviet prisoners of war in Germany. Statement of the problem. Sources and literature" quotes this phrase, referring to " Certificate from the commission for the rehabilitation of victims of political repression" //New and recent history , 1996, No. 2, p. 92.

What’s interesting is that there really is such a phrase there - that’s the name of one part of this certificate.
But no reference is given to where this phrase came from, where, when and to whom Stalin said this.

The most interesting thing is that the help contains no links at all. Only in the introduction are the names of the archives in which they worked mentioned.

There is a version that this phrase was allegedly uttered by Stalin in a conversation with the representative of the International Red Cross, Count Bernadotte and is quoted in his memoirs.

The phrase in the retellings is formulated as follows: “...there are no Russian prisoners of war - the Russian soldier is fighting to the death. If he chooses captivity, then he is automatically excluded from the Russian community.”, which somewhat changes its meaning, because “Russian community” is a moral category, not a legal one, i.e. “We will despise the prisoners, but you will return the prisoners to us and observe the conventions on prisoners of war.”

b) Simonov's version (Mekhlis)

K. Simonov in the book "Through the eyes of a man of my generation"(1979) recounts a conversation with G. Zhukov.

Quote:

“In May 1956, after the suicide of A. Fadeev, I met Zhukov in the Hall of Columns, in the presidium room, where everyone who was to stand on the guard of honor at Fadeev’s coffin had gathered. Zhukov arrived a little before that time when he was supposed to stand on the guard of honor, and it turned out that we talked with him for half an hour, sitting in the corner of this room. The topic of the conversation was unexpected both for me and for the circumstances in which this conversation took place. Zhukov spoke about what worried and inspired him then, shortly after the 20th Congress. It was about restoration good name people who were captured mainly in the first period of the war, during our long retreats and huge encirclements... What do we have?- he said, - we have Mehlis came to the point of putting forward the formula: “Everyone who is captured is a traitor to the motherland.” and justified it by the fact that everyone soviet man", faced with the threat of captivity, was obliged to commit suicide, that is, in essence, he demanded that several million more suicides be added to all the millions who died in the war."

c) Vlasov version

In the Soviet film epic "Liberation" (1976) there is an episode of the arrival of Gen. Vlasov to the Sachsenhausen camp to recruit prisoners of war.

Quote:
A man in civilian clothes takes off his hat and approaches the microphone. He speaks German, each of his phrases is translated into Russian by the general’s adjutant:

My name is Arthur von Christman. I represent the German Red Cross. Here is a message from Swiss newspapers,” the man unfolded the newspaper: “A delegation of the International Red Cross went from Switzerland to Moscow to discuss with the Soviet authorities measures to help Russian prisoners of war. with great difficulty The delegation achieved a meeting with Stalin. He listened to representatives of the Swiss Red Cross and replied: “We have no prisoners of war. We only have traitors"

Phrase " We have no prisoners, only traitors." in various variations indeed was a vital part of German agitation in prisoner of war camps, as described by numerous eyewitness accounts.

As for the Vlasovites, in January-February 1946. interned ROA fighters, held in the Plattling camp , wrote Eleanor Roosevelt letter "Save our souls", which states, among other things:

Quote:

"Did you know that Stalin abandoned his prisoners of war, who, due to a military incident, found themselves in German captivity, declaring them traitors to the motherland" /order N260 of September 1941/. Molotov stated that "we have no prisoners of war, but deserters from the Red Army." ( cit. by B. Kuznetsov "To please Stalin", 1957)

The author of the letter was, apparently, Major General of the ROA Meandrov, former boss propaganda department Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia, soon issued Soviet authorities and hanged together with Vlasov. The letter speaks, of course, about order 270.

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"One death is a tragedy. Millions of deaths are statistics"

The phrase is usually attributed to Stalin. However, no one has found where and when Stalin said it. Moreover, it is very similar to the phrase from the novel Remarque"Black obelisk"(1956), which talks about German losses in the First World War:

"We are looking at evening dawn. The train comes puffing and disappears in black smoke. It’s strange, I think, how many people were killed during the war - everyone knows that two million died senselessly and profitably - so why now are we so excited about one death, but have almost forgotten about those two million? But, apparently, this always happens: the death of one person is death, and the death of two million is just statistics."

So this is someone’s deliberate lie, started most likely after Stalin’s death and based on the principle “well, everyone knows...”

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"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem."

Stalin himself never said this phrase, and it first appeared in the novel Rybakov "Children of Arbat", published in the summer of 1987.

The famous "Stalinist" saying invented by the writer Anatoly Rybakov, as he has repeatedly admitted. Here is a fragment from Rybakov’s conversation with the main perestroika ideologist Alexander Yakovlev:

« Yakovlev:

I understand, of course, you fiction, but your novel reads like real story as if these historical figures really said so. I was struck by one phrase of Stalin. He orders the shooting of white officers, they object to him: it’s illegal, there will be problems. Stalin replies: “Death solves all problems. No man, no problems.” Where did Stalin say this? There is no such thing in his writings.

I asked one specialist on Stalin:

“Perhaps this is in someone’s memories of Stalin?” He replied: “Nowhere, Rybakov came up with it himself.” Risky, I must say... Such words! "Death solves all problems. No man, no problem." This means kill and be done with it! This is a cannibalistic philosophy. Did you really invent this phrase yourself and attribute it to Stalin?

Rybakov:

Perhaps I heard it from someone, perhaps I came up with it myself. So what? Did Stalin act differently? Convinced your opponents, opponents? No, he exterminated them... “No man, no problem...” This was Stalin’s principle. I just formulated it briefly. This is the artist's right."

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Revenge is a dish that should be served cold.

According to Wikipedia, this is a saying that appeared in English form "revenge is a dish best served cold" in 1846 in the translation of the French short story Mathilde (author - Marie Joseph Eugène Sue)

"No person - no problem"

The famous “Stalinist” saying was invented by the writer Anatoly Rybakov, as he has repeatedly admitted. Here is a fragment from Rybakov’s conversation with the main perestroika ideologist Alexander Yakovlev:

«[ Yakovlev: ] I understand, of course, your work is fiction, but your novel reads like a real story, as if these historical figures really said so. I was struck by one phrase of Stalin. He orders the shooting of white officers, they object to him; illegal, problems will arise. Stalin replies: “Death solves all problems. No man, no problems.” Where did Stalin say this? There is no such thing in his writings.

I asked one specialist on Stalin: “Maybe this is in someone’s memories of Stalin?” He replied: “Nowhere, Rybakov came up with it himself.” Risky, I must say... Such words! "Death solves all problems. No man, no problem." This means kill and be done with it! This is a cannibalistic philosophy. Did you really invent this phrase yourself and attribute it to Stalin?

[Rybakov: ] Perhaps I heard it from someone, perhaps I came up with it myself. So what? Did Stalin act differently? Convinced your opponents, opponents? No, he exterminated them... "No man - no problem..." This was the Stalinist principle. I just formulated it briefly. This is the artist's right."

Here Anatoly Naumovich is still flirting: they say, maybe he heard it somewhere, or maybe he came up with it himself. But in an interview with Irina Rishina, the writer is no longer shy:

“I.R.: This perfectly corresponds to the famous Stalinist postulate, composed by you: “Death solves all problems. No man, no problem.”

AR: Can you imagine, I found these words in the book “Russian Political Quotes”. They, however, had a note - “attributed to”. I then became very proud of myself - this is the aphorism I came up with. (Laughs)."